I feel like every AI conversation somehow ends up in one of two places: either “AI is taking all our jobs!” or “Just use ChatGPT for everything!”
Honestly… I hate both of those convos.
So instead, I wanted to ask some much more interesting questions! Who’s actually making the decisions about how AI gets used at work? Who decided AI should be ranking candidates, or helping determine headcount?
And more importantly… should it be?
I invited Aubrey Blanche to help me unpack all of it!
We talked AI ethics, human-centered design, why productivity might be the worst goal for AI adoption, and somehow ended up on Harry Potter fanfiction and Google Maps conspiracy theories.
It all connects, I promise!!
00:00:00 — Intro
00:04:08 — What’s Changed Most About How You Work?
00:06:00 — Why Go Back to School for AI Ethics?
00:17:48 — Why Has Productivity Become AI’s Main Goal?
00:23:29 — What Should HR Ask Before Chasing AI Efficiency?
00:25:17 — How Do You Actually Influence Executives?
00:29:01 — Is “Human in the Loop” Enough?
00:34:14 — Should AI Be Ranking Job Candidates?
00:37:54 — What’s the AI Ethics Skill HR Is Missing?
00:43:41 — How Can HR Start Thinking Like an Ethicist?
00:47:14 — What’s the First AI Change HR Leaders Should Make Tomorrow?
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