The Leadership Divide (Episode 1): Leadership at an Inflection Point

Hebba Youssef
Hebba Youssef
July 22, 2026

Featured Guest: Allison Howell, CEO of Hogan Assessments

This is The Leadership Divide, a special series with Hogan Assessments in partnership with I Hate It Here!

Across four episodes, we’re saying the thing out loud: leadership often fails because companies pick and develop leaders based solely on vibes and tenure, then act SHOCKED when everyone’s miserable.

Today, I Hate It Here’s Hebba Youssef is joined by Allison Howell, CEO of Hogan Assessments, and they are not holding back!

Hebba and Allison get into why trust in leadership is in the gutter, why your favorite “visionary” CEO might actually just be loud, why wanting a manager with basic communication skills is somehow considered a big ask, and more.

00:00:00 — Intro

00:04:56 – What’s Shifted in Leadership Since 5 Years Ago?

00:07:27 – How the Erosion of Trust in Institutions Shows Up on a Regular Day at Work

00:11:39 – What Employees Are Asking for From a Leader, and Whether It’s Reasonable

00:14:26 – Why People End Up in Management Because They Were Good at a Job, Not Because They’re Good at Managing

00:18:21 – The “Dark Side”: What It Costs to Misread This Leadership Moment

00:21:54 – How AI Is Reshaping Trust, Judgment, and Decision-Making at Work

00:24:08 – The Less Catastrophic (but Still Bad) Version of Getting This Moment Wrong

00:28:33 – What Orgs Consistently Get Wrong About Selecting and Developing Leaders

00:30:20 – What It Would Look Like to Get Leadership Selection Right

Hogan Assessments is the international leader in personality insights.

With the world’s largest database of personality research and decades’ worth of experience in psychometrics, Hogan produces valid, reliable personality assessments that measure everyday strengths, potential shortcomings, and values and motivators.

Hogan’s solutions empower organizations to hire the right people without bias, boost productivity, reduce turnover, promote diversity and inclusion, identify high-potential talent, develop leaders, and inspire employees to do their best.

To learn more, check them out at http://hogan.to/ihateithere

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Hebba Youssef
Hebba Youssef